spn 2x21 dialogue question
May. 12th, 2007 12:02 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
On rewatching, I have a question:
In the scene between Sam and the Demon in this episode, there's a line of dialogue I can't hear clearly -- or rather, I know what i thought I heard, but I've seen other people transcribing it differently. The Demon is explaining why he wants to help Sam -- because Sam is the best candidate to be the leader he needs -- and he says something about Sam having finely-honed skills (or whatever), and adds what I hear as "thanks to your daddy. Sam... Sammy, you're my favorite." (Which, as an aside, is an interesting throwback to that line in DT last season.) But other people have transcribed the first four words as "next to your daddy" and as starting a new sentence, whereas it seems to me that they're part of the earlier sentence -- "you're well-trained, thanks to your daddy," and then a new sentence about how Sam is the YED's favorite. The sentence I don't hear is: "Next to your daddy, Sam... Sammy, you're my favorite." Which would also be cool, but would open up some serious questions about the demon's relationship with John.
Does anyone else have the faintest idea of what I'm talking about here? And if so, what did you hear?
Also, is it Thursday yet?
In the scene between Sam and the Demon in this episode, there's a line of dialogue I can't hear clearly -- or rather, I know what i thought I heard, but I've seen other people transcribing it differently. The Demon is explaining why he wants to help Sam -- because Sam is the best candidate to be the leader he needs -- and he says something about Sam having finely-honed skills (or whatever), and adds what I hear as "thanks to your daddy. Sam... Sammy, you're my favorite." (Which, as an aside, is an interesting throwback to that line in DT last season.) But other people have transcribed the first four words as "next to your daddy" and as starting a new sentence, whereas it seems to me that they're part of the earlier sentence -- "you're well-trained, thanks to your daddy," and then a new sentence about how Sam is the YED's favorite. The sentence I don't hear is: "Next to your daddy, Sam... Sammy, you're my favorite." Which would also be cool, but would open up some serious questions about the demon's relationship with John.
Does anyone else have the faintest idea of what I'm talking about here? And if so, what did you hear?
Also, is it Thursday yet?
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Date: 2007-05-12 03:36 am (UTC)Now you've got me all confused!
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Date: 2007-05-12 03:08 pm (UTC)And all I can say is that I'm glad I only have to wait a week to see the next episode and not the whole of the summer. Gah.
I am now slightly scared of what they'll come up with as a cliffhanger next week.
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Date: 2007-05-12 10:10 pm (UTC)OMG YES! Although we may get some even worse cliffhanger, in its place!
I would not be surprised, actually, if Sam were still dead at the end of next week's episode.
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Date: 2007-05-12 03:35 pm (UTC)But then, I didn't really think about it too much. :)
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Date: 2007-05-12 03:39 pm (UTC)Yes. How exciting it would be the other way. But I also like the grudging respect in "thanks to" and it's also the YED using that, which gives me a nice little shiver. The YED twists things to his own purposes. He says he killed Mary because she interrupted but maybe killing Mary was part of the plan too because by killing Mary, he put John on the road with his boys and caused John to train Sam as well as he did.
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Date: 2007-05-12 10:13 pm (UTC)Yes -- and the sense that the Demon sees Sam as a joint project, his and John's. Which is both creepy and really cool.
...maybe killing Mary was part of the plan too because by killing Mary, he put John on the road with his boys and caused John to train Sam as well as he did.
I'm a little resistant to this idea, if only because I really like the idea that Sam is something of an accident -- that John made him into a weapon, and the Demon wants to use that weapon, but that Sam is also the weapon which might ultimately destroy the YED. That he's both a temptation and a threat to the YED, I guess, and that he's something unpredictable. (For one thing, it explains why Sam is the center of the story, as opposed to any of the other children, and makes this particular generation especially important to the YED.)
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Date: 2007-05-12 11:10 pm (UTC)But I sort of wanted the YED, after revealing that killing Mary was a fluke, to say something like "Although it worked out better than I expected."