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OK, I finally got to see KLG II. And all I can really say is

Wow. And eeee! And when is the nest season starting, please?

I've read a little commentary, and have some random thoughts.

  • Adama's posture at the very end mimicked Baltar's on Kobol -- both in a near-crucified pose. It was especially interesting because of the contrast in their setting: Baltar lying on the grass, Adama bleeding all over the tactical table. And that was a striking image: the blood flowing over the white of the table, with the dark shape of Adama surrounded by Lee, Tigh, and Dualla. The show is not only beautifully-written, it's also beautifully shot.


  • Is Baltar going to be upset when he realizes that the infant he saw is going to be Boomer and Helo's, rather than his and Six's?


  • That wail that Starbuck let out when she heard that Caprica!Boomer is pregnant? Amazing.


  • I'm still trying to understand how Cylons think. Interesting that they value their own lives as little as they do human life: presumably they could have prevented the nuclear bomb from going off on their Battlestar, if they'd wanted. I wonder whether the Cylons have any concept of the individual at all -- it seems probable to me that they don't, which may be why they have no idea that murdering over 99% of the humans is wrong, leaving aside the "God told us to!" issue. Because it might be that, from the Cylon perspective, as long as one model survives, they all are considered to have survived, and so the scale of the human loss is literally unimaginable to them.


  • And moving on from that, is it then the case that the hybrid children they're trying to create would be both Cylon and individual? Or maybe "unique" is the word I'm looking for? The Cylons do seem to be aware that there's some kind of deep lack to them.


  • Was the Cylon Battlestar alive? And does that count as another Cylon model?


  • Moving on to speculation, it seems likely to me that Tigh's instinct will be to institute martial law, with himself in charge. But with Roslin imprisoned and Baltar missing, it seems that Tom Zarek will attempt a play for power, at which point one must wonder exactly what kind of arrangement he and Ellen Tigh came too, and just how much influence she has over her husband.


  • If Roslin doesn't regain her position, the civilian government will go either to Zarek or to Baltar. I'm not sure what I think about that: I think that there needs to be more attention to the civilians in this story next season.


  • I loved the little conversation between Billy and Dualla during the standoff. Neither of them could quite understand how they'd reached this point.


  • How badly hurt was Kara? I couldn't tell, but she looked badly beat-up. I admit to being a little confused about how exactly the Arrow of Apollo is going to help them find Earth. Or how they're going to get off Caprica, now that the Cylons know they're there. Unless Caprica!Six was working on her own? Are the Cylons unified? It seems more and more likely that they're working at cross-purposes, much of the time. But I also wonder whether they might be being controlled by some greater intelligence -- not that this is what they mean when they say "God," but that I think their consciousness may be very different from human consciousness.



I have a feeling that I could keep talking about this for a while, especially the question of the Cylon plan.


Are people still talking about this, or have I missed the boat entirely?

Date: 2005-04-13 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilahlackey.livejournal.com
So . . . the Cylons can admire/covet one characteristic of an otherwise despised species, like individuality? I guess I'm not really sure where your analogy is going. Could you explain further?

Date: 2005-04-13 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] somedaybitch.livejournal.com
the Cylons believe that humans are weak, flawed, evil, inferior, what have you. i don't think it's one characteristic, i think it's humanity specifically. think back to Leoben's conversations with Starbuck. *why* the human cylons sweat, *why* they fear, *why* they get hungry. because it's human. i think they're trying to be human for their God.

Date: 2005-04-14 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilahlackey.livejournal.com
Yeah, that does make sense given what we've heard from the Cylons. I guess it just doesn't seem rational to me. If they believe that God created them because the humans were weak, flawed and evil, why would they believe God wanted them to have those same flaws? Well, either way, I assume we'll find out more about their religion and the "plan" next season. Hope so, anyway.

Date: 2005-04-14 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] somedaybitch.livejournal.com
i think that, and i forgot this part before, Cylons did what they did because they see the humans, their "parents", as having sinned. also, God made humans and they, the Cylons, are trying to be better than humans, more human perhaps, in order to show their God that what he made was good but the humans were simply unworthy. or uh, something like that.

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