I was struck by the parallel between John and Dean here: John bargaining with the demon while Dean tries to bargain with Death
Oh. Yes. Nice!
I'm still not doing well with John's death; I wasn't watching only for John, but he was a big part of my experience as a fan -- look at the fic I've written, and it's pretty much all about John, and, you know, fanfic is what I do. That's my fannish participation thing. But JDM knocked it out of the park, and this was how John had to die
I know what you mean. Although I think I'm here mostly for Dean, not John but JDM and John's presence was a big part of my experience of season 1, the episodes that really shook me the most were JDM's. My fic hasn't been mostly John, but I've ficced him enough that it's another level of ouch to lose him.
Somewhere in me there's a post on how John is such a Roman, and the boys just aren't. This isn't that post.
No, that's an essay, which you will write.
because all that he could see, I think, was the harm he'd done, Sam's anger and Dean's broken body and nothing to show for all that sorrow. So he did the only thing he could do, fixed the only thing he could fix.
That's so beautifully put. *fangirls your meta* But because I'm in deep deep denial here, I think he *also*, in addition to a true act of sacrifice to save his son, has a P-L-A-N and dying was part of it. But how much of that is denial (HE'S NOT DEAD HE'S JUST TAKING A NAP) and how much is actual meta. However what we've seen of the character so far, it's almost never purely about the Love. That's not to say he doesn't love his boys more than breathing. I've said that before this and it was neat to have proof in this episode. He literally does love his sons more than his own life. But--he has a PLAN too.
His sacrifice, though, was something I started to get just a glimmer of an inkling of, maybe it was Bobby pointing out the materials weren't for protection. I *wanted* John to do what he did, even though I'm not happy he's gone and want him back RIGHT NOW KTHX. But my view of John allows for a John who would lay down his life for his son, even though I think he's screwed up and screwed up his kids too.
I was so glad Dean got to rail at him. He needed to do that, even if he doesn't remember it after.
John is such an amazing bad-ass.
Oh, John. Oh, John. You did what it took; you did good.
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Date: 2006-10-01 02:59 pm (UTC)Oh. Yes. Nice!
I'm still not doing well with John's death; I wasn't watching only for John, but he was a big part of my experience as a fan -- look at the fic I've written, and it's pretty much all about John, and, you know, fanfic is what I do. That's my fannish participation thing. But JDM knocked it out of the park, and this was how John had to die
I know what you mean. Although I think I'm here mostly for Dean, not John but JDM and John's presence was a big part of my experience of season 1, the episodes that really shook me the most were JDM's. My fic hasn't been mostly John, but I've ficced him enough that it's another level of ouch to lose him.
Somewhere in me there's a post on how John is such a Roman, and the boys just aren't. This isn't that post.
No, that's an essay, which you will write.
because all that he could see, I think, was the harm he'd done, Sam's anger and Dean's broken body and nothing to show for all that sorrow. So he did the only thing he could do, fixed the only thing he could fix.
That's so beautifully put. *fangirls your meta* But because I'm in deep deep denial here, I think he *also*, in addition to a true act of sacrifice to save his son, has a P-L-A-N and dying was part of it. But how much of that is denial (HE'S NOT DEAD HE'S JUST TAKING A NAP) and how much is actual meta. However what we've seen of the character so far, it's almost never purely about the Love. That's not to say he doesn't love his boys more than breathing. I've said that before this and it was neat to have proof in this episode. He literally does love his sons more than his own life. But--he has a PLAN too.
His sacrifice, though, was something I started to get just a glimmer of an inkling of, maybe it was Bobby pointing out the materials weren't for protection. I *wanted* John to do what he did, even though I'm not happy he's gone and want him back RIGHT NOW KTHX. But my view of John allows for a John who would lay down his life for his son, even though I think he's screwed up and screwed up his kids too.
I was so glad Dean got to rail at him. He needed to do that, even if he doesn't remember it after.
John is such an amazing bad-ass.
Oh, John. Oh, John. You did what it took; you did good.
I'm still not handling this all that well.
Sing it.
Awesome meta!