I'm not sure there's much I have to say to this -- you see it one way, I see it another.
I don't really see much evidence that Lee is driven more by emotion than by reason in this episode, aside from his very obvious grudge against Tigh -- I have to grant you that! But I don'tthink that his actions this week were entirely determined by that lack of respect.
It's because of his own actions in 33 that I don't think the civilian deaths are the turning point for Lee -- he did what he had to do in that instance to protect the fleet. I think that Tigh feels that he's doing the same, in sending out marines to ensure that Galactica is resupplied (no matter how clumsy the execution was).
I'm also a bit puzzled that people see to think that, now that Baltar is back on board, everyone - especially Tigh - would fall upon him with a glad heart.
OK. let me try to reconstruct what I remember here -- my memory may be faulty. Before Roslin sent Starbuck on the insane mission to Caprica, it seems to me that the military and civilan spheres in the fleet were working together relatively smoothly. Roslin, for reasons of her own, crossed a line there, and Adama had her locked up. At this point, wasn't Baltar already away from the fleet? So there was a temporary vacuum on the civilian side, and when Tigh felt that he couldn't work with the council of 12 (is that what they're called?) he declared martial law -- because the council was going to put power back in Roslin's hands, and that's unacceptable to Tigh.
Granted that Colonial practice may be different from our own, but one assumes that the reason you have a vice president is so that someone can perform the office of president if the president him or herself is incapable (because, say, she's been locked up for treason). You and I might think that Baltar is crazier than a crazy thing and dangerous too, but (a) we don't have much evidence that the people on the show have noticed and (b) he's still the vice president. Once he's back with the fleet, Tigh has a duty to meet with him and explain the situation. In not doing so, I think he indicates that he has no intention of cancelling his own order, no matter what the situation on the civilian side -- that's when this moves from a temporary measure to a coup. When does Tigh plan to restore regular government? When Adama wakes up? What if Adama dies? Will Tigh allow elections to be held (elections to which Lee has shown himself to be strongly committed)?
I really don't see this as some kind of teenaged revolt, if only because of the scene between Lee and his father -- he knows exactly how serious the situation is, and he knows what he's doing. And he strongly suspects that his father will never forgive him for it.
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Re: Lee's Reactions
Date: 2005-08-09 09:51 pm (UTC)I don't really see much evidence that Lee is driven more by emotion than by reason in this episode, aside from his very obvious grudge against Tigh -- I have to grant you that! But I don'tthink that his actions this week were entirely determined by that lack of respect.
It's because of his own actions in 33 that I don't think the civilian deaths are the turning point for Lee -- he did what he had to do in that instance to protect the fleet. I think that Tigh feels that he's doing the same, in sending out marines to ensure that Galactica is resupplied (no matter how clumsy the execution was).
I'm also a bit puzzled that people see to think that, now that Baltar is back on board, everyone - especially Tigh - would fall upon him with a glad heart.
OK. let me try to reconstruct what I remember here -- my memory may be faulty. Before Roslin sent Starbuck on the insane mission to Caprica, it seems to me that the military and civilan spheres in the fleet were working together relatively smoothly. Roslin, for reasons of her own, crossed a line there, and Adama had her locked up. At this point, wasn't Baltar already away from the fleet? So there was a temporary vacuum on the civilian side, and when Tigh felt that he couldn't work with the council of 12 (is that what they're called?) he declared martial law -- because the council was going to put power back in Roslin's hands, and that's unacceptable to Tigh.
Granted that Colonial practice may be different from our own, but one assumes that the reason you have a vice president is so that someone can perform the office of president if the president him or herself is incapable (because, say, she's been locked up for treason). You and I might think that Baltar is crazier than a crazy thing and dangerous too, but (a) we don't have much evidence that the people on the show have noticed and (b) he's still the vice president. Once he's back with the fleet, Tigh has a duty to meet with him and explain the situation. In not doing so, I think he indicates that he has no intention of cancelling his own order, no matter what the situation on the civilian side -- that's when this moves from a temporary measure to a coup. When does Tigh plan to restore regular government? When Adama wakes up? What if Adama dies? Will Tigh allow elections to be held (elections to which Lee has shown himself to be strongly committed)?
I really don't see this as some kind of teenaged revolt, if only because of the scene between Lee and his father -- he knows exactly how serious the situation is, and he knows what he's doing. And he strongly suspects that his father will never forgive him for it.