just saying what everyone else is

[vaznetti]

It's nice not to feel completely out of step with the fandom re: Dean and his misogynist language; as everyone has pointed out, trollprincess did the math and there's a distinct upswing in the number of times Dean and Sam use pejoratives when addressing women -- from 3 times over 22 episodes to 18 times over 16. So it's not surprising that by the time I got to the end of the season I was more or less unmoved by Dean's suffering.

What I like best, though, are the excuses for it -- which range from "blame CW!" to "that's not sexist!" to "they deserve it!" to "it's because of the fangirls!" But my absolute favorite, so far, has to be "It's all John's fault!" (cereta's whole post there is worth reading, as are the comments). Because although indeed it is theoretically possible that John was a sexist asshole, the textual evidence we have does not support it. I am so tempted to go all teal deery about this! Because sure, Missouri and Ellen (and probably Mary) would totally have put up with that.

Unless calling Kate-the-vampire "sweetheart" counts in this context, of course.

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[vaznetti]

I think I mostly stick around for the fandom, but that may well become less of a draw over time. I've barely read any fic this year, to be honest, particularly off my friends list.

I find the extent to which the showrunners don't understand that they're driving fans like you and me away very frustrating -- almost as frustrating as the thought that they may well know exactly what they're doing.

[camille-is-here.livejournal.com]

Ever since Red Sky it's been clear to me that they don't like their fans and, even more important, are so set on making sure we know it that they will sacrifice the integrity of their own creative vision to insult us. To which, again, how dumb is that?

And I agree that there is less fic that grips me as the newer portrayals muddy the waters.

I think SCC and Bones may make it easier for me to let go of the fandom. I actually have shows that I like a lot now, with interesting interactions in which women play a key role. And a lot of my friends seem to be catching one or the other bandwagon, so it may be time to move on.