just saying what everyone else is

[vaznetti]

It's nice not to feel completely out of step with the fandom re: Dean and his misogynist language; as everyone has pointed out, trollprincess did the math and there's a distinct upswing in the number of times Dean and Sam use pejoratives when addressing women -- from 3 times over 22 episodes to 18 times over 16. So it's not surprising that by the time I got to the end of the season I was more or less unmoved by Dean's suffering.

What I like best, though, are the excuses for it -- which range from "blame CW!" to "that's not sexist!" to "they deserve it!" to "it's because of the fangirls!" But my absolute favorite, so far, has to be "It's all John's fault!" (cereta's whole post there is worth reading, as are the comments). Because although indeed it is theoretically possible that John was a sexist asshole, the textual evidence we have does not support it. I am so tempted to go all teal deery about this! Because sure, Missouri and Ellen (and probably Mary) would totally have put up with that.

Unless calling Kate-the-vampire "sweetheart" counts in this context, of course.

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[hossgal.livejournal.com]

Because although indeed it is theoretically possible that John was a sexist asshole, the textual evidence we have does not support it. I am so tempted to go all teal deery about this! Because sure, Missouri and Ellen (and probably Mary) would totally have put up with that.

Word.

I am not even following, clicking, or in any other way engaging in the argument (if I hadn't been involved in this same argument since the second week after I started watching the show, I might, but not now) but this? Oh hell yeah.

Put up with it long enough to pick their jaws up off the floor and say "Door. Now. And don't come back."

*sigh*

God, I miss Ellen.

- hg

[vaznetti]

I am not even following, clicking, or in any other way engaging in the argument (if I hadn't been involved in this same argument since the second week after I started watching the show, I might, but not now) but this? Oh hell yeah.

You are wise to avoid the argument, because it would only make your head explode.

And as for the John issue... yeah. I mean, obviously the guy does piss people off, but it's not a gendered thing. If anything, John's an equal opportunity asshole.

I really wish we could have Ellen back next season.

[camille-is-here.livejournal.com]

I want Ellen back so much. And Sarah and Missouri and Diane and Kathleen and Hendrickson, who is not a woman, but I want him back anyway. And I want John back. Somehow. He could phone it in for flashbacks.

[hossgal.livejournal.com]

If anything, John's an equal opportunity asshole.

heee! Yes.

- hg