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A little more on SPN 2x14
This is mostly spec -- and I am pretty much entirely unspoiled, so please do not be spoiling me in comments. I don't care if I'm right or wrong, at least not right now.
I am more and more convinced that the "Winchester boy" who is immune to whatever it was in Croatoan is Dean, not Sam. At least, I think it's a strong possibility. Or that the deal John made is still in effect, and has details we don't know about. Or maybe the two are connected.
One thing that I hope will come back in the long-term is the notion of trapping a demon in a human body. That's always been the other part of the problem of killing the YED -- not only do they need a weapon that will work, but they also need a way of holding the demon in a form on which the weapon can be used. Remember the scene in Salvatin, when it just disappears before the bullet can hit? There's no reason that can't happen again, even if it's possessing a human body. I really hope that when the showdown comes, we see this trick come back to haunt the demons.
Exorcism really is just a short term solution, isn't it? I mean, you send a demon back to hell for a couple of months, but if it really wants to, it crawls back out for another shot at you. I rather like the implication that demon Meg doesn't care about the master plan any more.
I think there is something weird going on with YED and the laregly hands-off approach he's taken to Sam and Dean, this year (last year, John implied that he was being hunted by demons -- this year, they don't have John-hunting to keep them busy). Maybe he's just busy in Hell torturing John, but I suspect that in general he doesn't come out much: I think he must know that it leaves him vulnerable.
I feel like I'm starting to see the outline of a plan, here.
I am more and more convinced that the "Winchester boy" who is immune to whatever it was in Croatoan is Dean, not Sam. At least, I think it's a strong possibility. Or that the deal John made is still in effect, and has details we don't know about. Or maybe the two are connected.
One thing that I hope will come back in the long-term is the notion of trapping a demon in a human body. That's always been the other part of the problem of killing the YED -- not only do they need a weapon that will work, but they also need a way of holding the demon in a form on which the weapon can be used. Remember the scene in Salvatin, when it just disappears before the bullet can hit? There's no reason that can't happen again, even if it's possessing a human body. I really hope that when the showdown comes, we see this trick come back to haunt the demons.
Exorcism really is just a short term solution, isn't it? I mean, you send a demon back to hell for a couple of months, but if it really wants to, it crawls back out for another shot at you. I rather like the implication that demon Meg doesn't care about the master plan any more.
I think there is something weird going on with YED and the laregly hands-off approach he's taken to Sam and Dean, this year (last year, John implied that he was being hunted by demons -- this year, they don't have John-hunting to keep them busy). Maybe he's just busy in Hell torturing John, but I suspect that in general he doesn't come out much: I think he must know that it leaves him vulnerable.
I feel like I'm starting to see the outline of a plan, here.
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I hadn't really thought of that -- but I think Meg's target here was mostly Dean, wasn't it? He was the one she really wanted to hurt, which was why driving him to kill Sam -- of his own free will -- was the plan she came up with.
I think that Dean really, really doesn't want to believe that Sam has gone bad, somehow, and that's why he didn't think that Sam wasn't himself. Although now that I type it out, that doesn't make much sense at all.
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I think that Dean really, really doesn't want to believe that Sam has gone bad, somehow, and that's why he didn't think that Sam wasn't himself. Although now that I type it out, that doesn't make much sense at all.
I think it's more that Dean will always always see every breath as an opportunity to save Sam, even if he *has* gone evil, so no situation is unsalvagable if they can only get on top of it and figure out what to do next. Hmm...
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Yes, this makes more sense to me -- Dean does a lot of damage control in this episode, and elsewhere. So for example faced with the evidence that Sam's killed a hunter, Dean's first instinct is to destroy the evidence, and then try to figure out what's going on. And part of the reason he insists on dealing alone may be that it's easier for him to control the situation that way -- he doesn't quite trust Jo to have the same priorities he does.
Well, yes, but making Dean a helpless passenger in his own meatsuit while she tortures Sam would have been pretty awful for Dean as well.
True. I wonder whether an unpossessed Sam in that situation would be too unpredictable -- would he be able to draw on some yet-unknown power, like he did in Nightmare?
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Right. Jo would take out a possessed or evil Sam to save other people. Dean... apparently won't. Or he won't use lethal force to do so, even if the situation may call for it.
I wonder whether an unpossessed Sam in that situation would be too unpredictable -- would he be able to draw on some yet-unknown power, like he did in Nightmare?
Possible. Also possible that the demon wanted to see what Sam's powers were from the inside.