I am not even following, clicking, or in any other way engaging in the argument (if I hadn't been involved in this same argument since the second week after I started watching the show, I might, but not now) but this? Oh hell yeah.

You are wise to avoid the argument, because it would only make your head explode.

And as for the John issue... yeah. I mean, obviously the guy does piss people off, but it's not a gendered thing. If anything, John's an equal opportunity asshole.

I really wish we could have Ellen back next season.