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vaznetti ([personal profile] vaznetti) wrote2006-08-28 08:00 am
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SPN: the absence of women

The absence of female characters from the ongoing SPN narrative seems to be the subject du jour, so I thought I'd jump in, because I'm usually one of the first to cry "misogyny" in the shows I watch (I'm looking at you, XF) but I don't see that here.


I think my response to this issue is based on the way I read the text, and so I think (a) that there are satisfying textual reasons for the absence of women and (b) that the show itself can be read as making the absence of women a problem. As we see in pretty much every intro for the whole run of the show, the Winchester family is an all-male enterprise, and it's an all-male enterprise because all the women in it were killed off -- not just Mary, but also Jess, at least in part because she was close enough to Sam to be perceived as a threat by the Demon. They didn't decide to leave the womenfolk at home while they went out on the road to do manly things like hunt demons -- they were driven to that when their whole world was thrown into imbalance by an external force which removed (effective) women from the world. Sam and John, at least, would like to return to a world with significant women in it, but they're both particular about who those women are -- they're attached to the idea of women as people as well as women as symbols. Dean's a good deal less particular, but he has all those rejection and abandonment issues, most of which are rooted in the loss of his mother at such a young age; again, the absence of women is a bad thing here.

I guess the short version is -- there are no women in the Winchester family because the Demon killed them all. The Demon is the big Evil, therefore the show does not seem to be telling me that the absence of women is a good thing. The Winchesters cope fairly well with a world which lacks significant women, but that world is not (in my opinion) presented as complete.

I'd like to talk about the guest-stars here, but maybe later -- right now it seems to me that there are villains and victims who are female, and villains and victims who are male or ungendered, and that female guest stars seem about as able to cope with what the Winchesters do as male guest stars. And ultimately, my reading of the show is based on the mytharc, not the MOTWs. Mileage varies.



As for comparisons to Buffy or XF, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the producers used the fact that the main characters are male to sell the show -- it's something to differentiate it on a network which already has a fair number of shows with a strong female presence (I mean, Charmed is still running, isn't it? and every time I catch an episode of Smallville, it seems to be all about the romances). And I don't think that having lots of juicy roles for women necessarily is enough to clear a show. Alias, for example, had a female hero and included good roles for more mature female actresses. It also represented relationships between women as almost universally competitive rather than cooperative, and marriage as a locus for deception and (in extreme but prominent cases) a form of warfare in which the wife is an enemy agent inserted within the husband's territory to undermine and destroy him.

My apologies if this doesn't make sense; I was awake at an unreasonable hour this morning, and lay there thinking about this because I couldn't fall back to sleep.

[identity profile] veejane.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the show figured out it had a female demographic a while ago; or else we woud not have nearly the number of loooooong tracking shots up Dean's body while he sleeps, or shirtless shots.

The third or fourth episode I watched, I was like, What is this, arty gay porn?


...not that there is anything wrong with that.

[identity profile] andromakhe001.livejournal.com 2006-08-31 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
Really? I remember one long tracking shot up Dean's body as he sleeps(Phantom Traveller, 4th episode) and 3 shirtless scenes altogether. Dean in Skin(though how much that counts, he started ripping his skin off right away), the top of Dean's chest and shoulders only, briefly, in the closing/opening scene of Asylum/Scarecrow and then the big "Sam in a towel" shot in Hell House. Not really very many at all compared to just about every other WB show except maybe 7th Heaven. :)

It might just be that our leads are very attractive and even perfectly normally staged shots of them look like arty gay porn. :) Let's face it, Jensen doesn't even need to try, he looks like 'arty gay porn' just about no matter what he's doing and has since he was about 17 years old. LOL