For the record

[vaznetti]

If you disappointed Howard Dean supporters vote for Nader and we're all stuck with another four years of our current President, I will be furious. Furious in that "I respect your right to vote your conscience and hope you can understand my never speaking to you again" way.

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[cassandre.livejournal.com]

Furious in that "I respect your right to vote your conscience and hope you can understand my never speaking to you again" way.

Hee! Love your way of putting things, as always.

I agree with lenadances; I think that the vast majority of Dean supporters, although somewhat disheartened perhaps, are not TOTALLY CLUELESS.

I am just so pissed off with Nader, though. I admired and respected the man, until today. The words that leap to mind are vanity, stupidity, egomania...

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[vaznetti]

I'm willing to stand corrected on this: it wasn't my intention to piss people off. I think that part of what's made me a little more nervous has been the whole "Great Media Conspiracy as the explanation for Dean's loss." I agree that he got a disproportionate amount of negative coverage, but the fact is that the real problem is that not enough voters voted for him. I'm just very suspicious of people who turn to "Great X Consiracy" to explain their losses.

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[se-parsons.livejournal.com]

After the media's relentless (as was pointed out in a large number of articles and studies) cry of "unelectable" for MONTHS, focus on his bad "personality" and "outsider" and "liberal" status, and the hailing of Kerry as the ONLY one who could beat Bush, I can see why that was the message people remembered when they got to the ballot box.

Exit polls in Wisconsin showed 25% of the voters were strong Dean supporters with many others who liked him, but far fewer than that actually voted for him becuase they didn't believe he could win. Kerry had little strong support and people voted for him simply because they'd heard he could win. The media DID play a huge role in the way the campaign went by selling the American public on that message.

That said, of the hundreds and hundreds of Dean voters on our list here in Illinois, and the one I monitor in Michigan, I haven't seen a single one suggesting we vote for Nader. They are all mostly annoyed with him or laughing at the egoism. Dean's supporters tend to be more centrist than liberal and Nader is far from a centrist. If he takes people from somewhere it will start with Kucinich.

We might loathe and despise Kerry for his dirty dealing with our boy, but he's still worlds better than the alternative, and there are very few who don't realize that.